Instead, for eight years as president, Obama harnessed his pop-culture savvy to communicate political messages.

“You’re drawing on where the culture is to get the message out.”

In 2015, Obama did a video forBuzzFeed.

Barack Obama looking serious

Fame aside, Obama sometimes wishes he could be anonymous in public.

The then-president described a carefree Saturday morning where he could stroll and have casual conversations.

“Anonymity is not something you think about as being valuable,” Obama explained toSeinfeld.

Barack Obama wearing sunglasses

Obama acknowledged that the first morning he woke up there, he felt rather awestruck.

He described a sunny scene where he’d go walking and treat himself to iced coffee.

“I’d sit on a bench and suddenly I realized that nobody recognizes me,” Obama toldMinhaj.

Michelle and Barack Obama smiling

And I felt like I won the lottery."

When he envisioned life post-presidency, Obama presumed he’d recapture some of his previous anonymity.

In theirpost-White House lives, he and Michelle Obamastill have security personnel.

“We’re out in the real world.

We have a house,” Michelle informed said on"Today.

This normalcy is also a surprising change for visitors to the Obama home.

Previously, guests were accustomed to multiple security checkpoints and an elevator before greeting the couple.

Once they left the White House, theObamas could focus on their marriage.

“We have dinners alone and chunks of time where it’s just us,” Michelle toldPeople.

“No kids, no publicity, no nothing.

Just us and our dreams.”