“So they don’t ever talk about any of it.

I think they love the idea of flying under the radar, feeling normal.”

Instead, the Waco renovators encourage their teenagers to cultivate their own identities.

Chip and Joanna Gaines smiling in “Fixer Upper”

“Chip is really good at saying, ‘You need your own identity.

When you’re finished with college, go do some stuff on your own.

And then if you want to come back years later and teach us, we’re here.'”

Drake and Crew Gaines embracing at Drake’s graduation

Joanna Gaines with her five children tailgating