“My mom [Karen E. Laine] and I aren’t in a great place.

My brother Tad and I aren’t in a great place.

My brother William and I are [in a] kind of, like, nonexistent place.

Karen Laine and Mina Starsiak

It’s complicated without even being complicated.

We don’t really engage much, and the last engagement wasn’t super positive.

And that was maybe a year ago,” Starsiak shared.

Mina Starsiak Hawk recording podcast

“We exist around each other.

No one really enjoys each other.

No one’s punching the other person in the face by any means.

Mina Starsiak Hawk and Karen Laine

We all just exist because it’s what makes my dad happy.”

Maybe she just gets annoyed with her.

She definitely acts like a teenager who is embarrassed by their quirky parents."

“I feel bad for everyone involved.

Family relationships aren’t easy, especially in big, complicated families,” a fanwrote.

“It’s been pretty apparent that Mina and Karen have a strained relationship.

In this season’s episodes, they barely interact at all.”