The two ladies formed their home renovation company, Two Chicks and a Hammer, back in 2007.

“We just learned as we went,” Starsiak-Hawk toldPeople.

“I read directions on how to install flooring and watched online videos about putting up tile.

Mina Starsiak-Hawk and Karen Laine smiling

It was really trial and error.”

Unsurprisingly, it was a hit, leading HGTV to order more episodes.

“[People] think we have so much more say than we do,” she said.

Mina Starsiak-Hawk and Karen Laine posing at event

“I build houses.

The powers that be make a show.”

Starsiak-Hawk came around to the name eventually, of course, and now acknowledges it fits their ethos completely.